Silver Deals.....

[Bullionbilly]

6 minutes ago, shortstack68 said:

Excuse my ignorance, as i'm fairly new to this, why does a particular brand matter? If it's a Kilo of silver from Tom, Dick or Harry brand whats the difference and why should the price be different from either or?

I suppose its like coins, some are more disirable than others. Some look nicer than others. But like you say a 1k of Tom's silver is just the same as 1k of Scottsdale at the end of the day. 

[SilverSniper]

23 hours ago, shortstack68 said:

Excuse my ignorance, as i'm fairly new to this, why does a particular brand matter? If it's a Kilo of silver from Tom, Dick or Harry brand whats the difference and why should the price be different from either or?

 

Not collectors are only concerned with weight.  Some collect specific makers (and designs) too.

23 hours ago, Bullionbilly said:

I suppose its like coins, some are more disirable than others. Some look nicer than others. But like you say a 1k of Tom's silver is just the same as 1k of Scottsdale at the end of the day. 

 

You are correct, it's not just about weight.  If that were true, there would be no market for the vastly overpriced RM Proof coins. 

[Bullionbilly]

On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 at 12:33, Shinus73 said:

I've taken a punt on the last two - it's what paydays are for.

What did you end up with ?

[Shinus73]

41 minutes ago, Bullionbilly said:

What did you end up with ?

2 Scottsdale Reserves, more than happy.

[Bullionbilly]

1 minute ago, Shinus73 said:

2 Scottsdale Reserves, more than happy.

Result ! Im gonna have to order 2 next time 

[SilverSniper]

On 2/2/2017 at 13:11, shortstack68 said:

I think storing a coin is easier than a Kg bar, plus a proof coin has a limited mintage and is specially prepared, that's why there is a premium, just wasn't so sure about bars as these are in my opinion just for stacking. So which are more desirable than others?

 

Many collectors like PAMP Suisse, and their minted bars could be considered as the bar equivalent of proof coins.  Ask @Pampfan

I have customers specifically seeking Geiger, Metalor, Englehard and Johnson Matthey bars only.  Some like Scottsdale Mint, others like the various other American and German mint/refinery bars. 

Stacking bars take less space than coins and are arguably easier to re-sell than the coin equivalent once you get into the higher weights.

Proof coin limited-mint and rarity:  do you feel the 1kg RM proof gold coins 'limited-mint' rarity are really worth £17k (estimate) more than a 1kg bar of gold?

As a balance I also sell coins, the above is just to show there is more to collecting than just weight value; otherwise we'd all only have the exact same type of coin.

Cheers

[Pampfan]

From my experiences, speaking purely on bullion items, in the smaller weight ranges- 1 ounce to 2 ounce coins will be easier to sell at spot or at a premium than a one ounce bar of silver.  (Again, this excludes special bars like pamp, etc.) when you get into the 10 ounce or kilo size coins like the kookaburra or the koala, the coin itself is too large and heavy and very ackward to store.

 In addition,  many of these coins came in plastic cases that cracked and broke very easily, leaving the coin to tarnish, etc.

I have been to a lot of shows in the USA and dealers selling the kilo sized coins all say the same thing, everyone thinks the coins are amazing looking but no one wants to buy them if they see a problem with it, even if the dealer is selling at spot. (It may be a mental thing - for collectors who are used to buying coins, they are less likely to shell out a large sum of money for a coin unless it is in perfect condition.)

Bars on the other hand, I have seen the exact opposite.  The one ounce bars simply aren't exciting and dealers will give you less than spot for them.  When you get into the larger sizes - 10 ounce and kilo sizes - collectors find the square bars easier to handle and stack and if they have imperfections, it is acceptable.

When you enter the realm of speciality bars and collectors bars the experience is completely different. 

My experience with pamp bars is that you pay a huge premium on the silver pieces to get a bar which is "an art piece".  I myself like to have some show pieces to look at and enjoy - because let's face it - if you are stacking silver bullion - it can get very boring quickly- who wants to look at 100 maple leafs, etc.

so it all depends on what you want to do - but it doesn't hurt to get an example of a few things to see what you like and don't like

 

[craig12]

a chap on e bay has 2 oz turtles at £37.50 inc postage  he has a 97 % feedback

[MickB]

1 hour ago, craig12 said:

a chap on e bay has 2 oz turtles at £37.50 inc postage  he has a 97 % feedback

Must have sold out

[craig12]

type in hawksbill as struck    2 left

[MickB]

5 minutes ago, craig12 said:

type in hawksbill as struck    2 left

Still can't see it?!! Have you got a link?

[craig12]

item 112279317458

[Shinus73]

Mixed date Britannias at Silver to Go - appear to be pre 2013's.

Knock yourselves out...

1 oz Britannia | Silver | mixed years | silver-to-go

[Roy]

@oliversw5

[Paul]

1925 available - plenty for everyone

[Jackobayliss]

Do you think these will have any sort of toning/milk spots/ damage etc ? 

 

Never dealt with this company before 

@Paul @Shinus73

[Jackobayliss]

1 hour ago, shortstack68 said:

Nice, but i'm trying to hang on for the coin fair in March, too much temptation around here lol

@shortstack68 

where is this coin fair ? 

[Paul]

They are a forum sponsor and super reliable - used them several times and have had quicker service from them sending from Germany to the UK, than using some UK dealers

They have UK bank and you can pay in sterling so no complicated currency transfers

The britannias should be OK - they are not pure .999 fine but the old .925 - so 92.5% pure but still have full 1oz silver but cant guarantee anything - give em a call if these are your concerns  @Jackobayliss

 

[fehk2001]

1 minute ago, shortstack68 said:

Munich

See u there 

[Jackobayliss]

1 minute ago, Paul said:

They are a forum sponsor and super reliable - used them several times and have had quicker service from them sending from Germany to the UK, than using some UK dealers

They have UK bank and you can pay in sterling so no complicated currency transfers

The britannias should be OK - they are not pure .999 fine but the old .925 - so 92.5% pure but still have full 1oz silver but cant guarantee anything - give em a call if these are your concerns 

 

@Paul thank you for this I have ordered some will call them tomorrow any way just to clarify... if all goes well I will add some extras onto my order ?

 

 

[fehk2001]

Just now, shortstack68 said:

Cool, I'm only going on Saturday though, I'm hoping to be out of cash by then ?

I get a barrel of beer before you go , I am sure you won't be out of cash ? 

[morezone]

If anyone here is specifically after pre 2013 brits, then I'd advise contacting them first. There's a good chance the listing is just generic and hasn't been changed to reflect the new purity.

[Shinus73]

16 hours ago, morezone said:

If anyone here is specifically after pre 2013 brits, then I'd advise contacting them first. There's a good chance the listing is just generic and hasn't been changed to reflect the new purity.

Very wise - out of curiosity I rang them this morning and they don't know what they're getting, but suspect they will be 2015/16. They have now changed the listing to state 999 or 958.

[sovereignsteve]

1 hour ago, Shinus73 said:

Very wise - out of curiosity I rang them this morning and they don't know what they're getting, but suspect they will be 2015/16. They have now changed the listing to state 999 or 958.

Yes I spoke to them too and was told they are all most likely 2015 and 2016 but with perhaps some 2013 and 2014

[sixgun]

Of potential interest from Atkinsons. i got one.

https://atkinsonsbullion.com/pre-owned/silver/pre-owned-silver-bars/pre-owned-pamp-suisse-fortuna-1kg-silver-bar