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Missing JC on the obverse


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Hi guys I am in a dilemma over here, I have recently got a gold proof 1/4oz Red Dragon graded by NGC and just realised that the JC mark on the obverse was missing while looking at it side by side with my sovereigns. That just shocked the bad out of me as I paid top dollar for this and the dealer is a reputable one who I dealt with earlier. The thing is I checked with NGC cert lookup and found out that the JC does exists just not frosted as what it should usually be. I immediately put the coin under the light and can barely sees it knowing the size of the coin.. So what should I do with it? Did NGC made a mistake on not able to spot a fake coin? or is that just a RM's mint error? The picture below is obtained from NGC...

 

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It will be a rare error coin. Normally the engravers that prepare the dye have a little film to protect the fields from the sandblasting that creates the frosted effect. In this case the letters weren't properly cut out and that is why J C wasn't frosted. NGC and PGCS look mainly at the fields, so this was overlooked by at least two graders. 

This coin slipped QC at the Royal Mint and at NGC. I believe there was an instance with US coins, where on a handful the frosting wasn't applied and they became for some reason quite desirable. 

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Actually it should have said "J.C"

I found another dragon that must be from the same dye - maybe @Numistacker can ask for a variety designation as the other one belongs to @Skelator88, which makes already two coins. I believe they only strik about 30 coins before reworking the dyes, so there maybe only very few coins with this error. 

 

 

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Actually it should have said "J.C"

I found another dragon that must be from the same dye - maybe [mention=378]Numistacker[/mention] can ask for a variety designation as the other one belongs to [mention=4144]Skelator88[/mention], which makes already two coins. I believe they only strik about 30 coins before reworking the dyes, so there maybe only very few coins with this error. 

 

 

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Thanks for helping me out looking for it! That just calm me down but man it might seem obvious in the picture but in real life the JC looks more like a scratch to be honest [emoji23][emoji23]

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Hi guys I am in a dilemma over here, I have recently got a gold proof 1/4oz Red Dragon graded by NGC and just realised that the JC mark on the obverse was missing while looking at it side by side with my sovereigns. That just shocked the bad out of me as I paid top dollar for this and the dealer is a reputable one who I dealt with earlier. The thing is I checked with NGC cert lookup and found out that the JC does exists just not frosted as what it should usually be. I immediately put the coin under the light and can barely sees it knowing the size of the coin.. So what should I do with it? Did NGC made a mistake on not able to spot a fake coin? or is that just a RM's mint error? The picture below is obtained from NGC...
 
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Looks to be error coin - do you mind sharing how much did you pay for it HyHy?
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8 minutes ago, *tada* said:

 


Looks to be error coin - do you mind sharing how much did you pay for it HyHy?

 

Erm it's around $1000 excluding taxes and shipping so get it from @Skelator88 he priced his item really reasonably and I have dealt with him before with no problems if that's your concern ;)

 

8 minutes ago, Kman said:

I would be pleased, as errors go it's pretty cool, doesn't distract from the overall aesthetic

Not sure if it will end up adding any value but still cool :D  

 

I do think so as well! I mean I wouldn't mind at all and not too bothered whether it will add on any value as long as it is authentic!

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