British trade dollar fake

[PansPurse]

So the British trade dollar that arrived this week, complete with COA I'm pretty sure is actually a fake:

Weight was just over half a gram light; magnet fell straight off; and the colour just didn't seem as shiny as comparable coins. So today I did a specific gravity test (video to follow) and yeah, significantly less dense than 900 silver.

Oh well, the eBay seller has been excellent thus far, offering full refund for return, and I am reassured that I can pick up on fakes when I encounter them.

 

[sixgun]

The story of your investigation would make a first rate video.

[richatthecroft]

At least seller obliged and refund available.  In the meantime, here's a real one.   

[Pete]

Looks suspicious - have you seen this ?

 

[TheByzantine]

have to be honest, pretty much all British trade dollars on ebay are fake...

[Seasider]

Interesting that the chap in the video says the fakes are always lighter.  I have one with the brass showing through which weighs 27 grams.  Of course with the brass showing through I did not have to weigh it to know it was fake.

[sovereignsteve]

4 hours ago, TheByzantine said:

have to be honest, pretty much all British trade dollars on ebay are fake...

not strictly true. i've bought several genuine ones from Germany

[PansPurse]

As promised:

 

[Coinsopalscanada]

I came across a gold plated silver trade dollar. The density registers as silver. Not magnetic with a very strong neodymium.  Its slightly over the weight like it should be if its plated.  The details and outer edge are sharp and correct looking.  Seems to pass every test for a silver trade dollar.  But someone damaged it by plating? Can you reverse electroplate a coin?

Finally my main problem with the coin isn't if its silver.  (Unless its like 9k haha ) 

My issue is the mint mark and the date.   I shouldn't be able to come across a 1921B in Japan. Or anywhere. What do you think?

[morezone]

@Coinsopalscanada If you wish to discuss your coin on this forum them please upload the pics and details onto this forum rather than linking to another forum.

[Coinsopalscanada]

I came across a gold plated silver trade dollar. The density registers as silver. Not magnetic with a very strong neodymium.  Its slightly over the weight like it should be if its plated.  The details and outer edge are sharp and correct looking.  Seems to pass every test for a silver trade dollar.  But someone damaged it by plating? Can you reverse electroplate a coin?

Finally my main problem with the coin isn't if its silver.  (Unless its like 9k haha ) 

My issue is the mint mark and the date.   I shouldn't be able to come across a 1921B in Japan. Or anywhere. What do I do ??

Sorry I posted before I had an account and it didn't show much somewhere to add photos!  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Coinsopalscanada]

If this is actually a gold plated authentic silver 1921B im a bit angry.. I guess gold keeps its from oxidation and toning? This would be almost akin to a crime against the numismatics community.  

[Coinsopalscanada]