Today I Received.....

[sovereignsteve]

3 hours ago, Sovereign said:

1863 PCGS AU58 Arabic 1 

seen Roman 1 

wich one is rarer ?

The Arabic 1 is the normal variety, the Roman I or inverted 1 over 1 (arabic) is or are, depending on whether these are 1 or 2 varieties),  much rarer, but not exceptionally rare.

I'm surprised they deem fit to mention the arabic 1 on the label as it's the normal variety.

[Guest]

The Arabic 1 is the normal variety, the Roman I or inverted 1 over 1 (arabic) is or are, depending on whether these are 1 or 2 varieties),  much rarer, but not exceptionally rare.
I'm surprised they deem fit to mention the arabic 1 on the label as it's the normal variety.

The grading companies seem to offer both designations when there is a relatively common alternative.

For example, if there is a St. George and Shield for the same date they will always say St. George even though St George is pretty much the default.

[sovereignsteve]

19 minutes ago, Numistacker said:

 

The grading companies seem to offer both designations when there is a relatively common alternative.

For example, if there is a St. George and Shield for the same date they will always say St. George even though St George is pretty much the default.

 

I can see your point but not quite the same.

Your example of the G&D as against the shield is different for the following reason. It is imperative that these two are differentiated as they are two completely different designs even though they are of the same year. They are meant to be that way.

On the other hand, we have the 1863 sovereign, the only design being the shield (forget the Sydney design for now) with the Arabic 1 as the design feature. The Roman I (or arabic 1 over inverted 1) is a die error and as such should be labelled. I don't think it is necessary to label the correct design. They don't do it for all years where there are die errors and it's only the fact that this error is relatively common, but still rare compared to the normal coin. What measure of occurence they use is purely arbitary.

[Guest]

I can see your point but not quite the same.
Your example of the G&D as against the shield is different for the following reason. It is imperative that these two are differentiated as they are two completely different designs even though they are of the same year. They are meant to be that way.
On the other hand, we have the 1863 sovereign, the only design being the shield (forget the Sydney design for now) with the Arabic 1 as the design feature. The Roman I (or arabic 1 over inverted 1) is a die error and as such should be labelled. I don't think it is necessary to label the correct design. They don't do it for all years where there are die errors and it's only the fact that this error is relatively common, but still rare compared to the normal coin. What measure of occurence they use is purely arbitary.

You are probably right. I do remember when I graded a double florin it also was designated as Arabic despite this being the more common variety.

[sovereignsteve]

Just now, Numistacker said:

 

You are probably right. I do remember when I graded a double florin it also was designated as Arabic despite this being the more common variety.

I'm not sure of the numbers but the Roman I 1887 double florin is pretty common compared to the average die error, so it's probably justified with this coin.

[sovereignsteve]

RAM kangaroos in various guises; proof, bu and carded. 2oz perth bu dogs

[airmac]

11 hours ago, Jay2 said:

Just received a fun coin today. Allegedly a two headed silver Morgan peace dollar. I'm curious how these were made, but I'm more concerned that it's really silver. It has coin orientation. Both heads are 1922 but have different levels of wear. I can see a slightly raised edge on one side which suggests a second head was just pressed or melted into a hollowed cavity, but I can't get a scalpel in there. Seems like a smooth seam in fact other than the telltale thickness.

 

Maybe check the weight? For a 1922 it should weigh Weight: 26.7300g

[sovereignsteve]

up to date now with the Belarus lunars, just love this series.

 

[mongo28]

5 2017 Silver Swan Proofs arrived

[Hyunchul]

Today I received...

Two tuvalu 1 oz Marvel THOR silver coins. 

The marvel series would be a neat collection. 

[Hyunchul]

3 hours ago, mongo28 said:

5 2017 Silver Swan Proofs arrived

I've heard thoses were pretty hard to get. 

Good for you mongo28 !!

[Hyunchul]

4 hours ago, sovereignsteve said:

up to date now with the Belarus lunars, just love this series.

 

Very artistic

[Jay2]

7 hours ago, airmac said:

Maybe check the weight? For a 1922 it should weigh Weight: 26.7300g

Thanks for that. It is indeed showing as 26g, almost 27g.

[augur]

1914 Austrian Ducat (no restrike, those are from 1915)

 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2017 by augur
better macro images

[motorbikez]

2017 & 2018 carded Bu & proof Roos

 

 

 

[augur]

1914 Russian 20 Kopeks

[PolarPanda]

On 20-10-2017 at 01:38, sovereignsteve said:

up to date now with the Belarus lunars, just love this series.

 

Looks very nice indeed! You suffered any milk spotting on them untill now? The coins from the past in this series have a pretty high premium it seems... 

[sovereignsteve]

1 minute ago, PolarPanda said:

Looks very nice indeed! You suffered any milk spotting on them untill now? The coins from the past in this series have a pretty high premium it seems... 

None whatsoever, a superb quality coin. They are collectable proof coins with a limited mintage and as such will have a high premium assuming people want to buy them. The last couple of years have been 1000 mintage although previous years were more.

[PolarPanda]

6 minutes ago, sovereignsteve said:

None whatsoever, a superb quality coin. They are collectable proof coins with a limited mintage and as such will have a high premium assuming people want to buy them. The last couple of years have been 1000 mintage although previous years were more.

Yeah i see the first releases had a mintage of 8.000 and now they went back to 1.000. Still they look very interesting and 'unique' to me. Thank you for sharing that picture! 

[Lr103]

Palladium Eagles, raw and graded

 

[PolarPanda]

53 minutes ago, Lr103 said:

Palladium Eagles, raw and graded

 

Beautiful! Can't wait to receive mine! 

[Goldmick]

Got my 2005 sovereign from sovereign today love it it's like new thanks sovereign

[Sal]

On 9/23/2017 at 12:21, mongo28 said:

2017 Gold Proof Libertad's arrived... Off to NGC next week... (1/10, 1/4, & 1/2oz)

Curious to see what grades you receive from NGC. I sent 8 2017 proof one ounce Libertads into PCGS and got 7 69"s and 1 70.

[mongo28]

Curious to see what grades you receive from NGC. I sent 8 2017 proof one ounce Libertads into PCGS and got 7 69"s and 1 70.

I'll know next week, yeah it looks like 69's are common... Although I thought only 2 out of my 3 coins looks like 70, the other I just wanted in an NGC slab... Once I know I'll post the results.

[Lindeman]

Some new gold  -  the 2017 Libertad 1/4 gold proof, two 1/4 gold QB Unicorns, and then a nice older 0.917 gold piece - the 1930 Uruguay centenary 5 pesos.  I bought two QB Unicorns as I was hoping to get one perfect one to grade, but although it’s too detailed to see in the photos one has a nick on the unicorn and the second has a nick on the usual spot on the Queens neck. So as I am really after an MS70 (greedy ...I know) , I may not actually send either of them in at all to NGC??

Then some silver for the stack: 12 QB unicorn 2 ounce coins (love the new background design on the Queens  side), and a nice 2000 Britannia and a new 1 oz silver bar for me, being a Geiger.

looking at both the unicorn gold and silver QBs compared to the others in the series, must say the unicorn is my second favourite, behind the Lion.

Lindeman