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    morezone got a reaction from Gav in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I'm have no idea how many people are really into proper numismatics but I doubt very many.  For most, it is not worth it and if you are going to pay for the ANA membership you may as well also pay for the premium membership as well since it only takes 9 coins to cover your membership fee due to the credit that is given and you will also received 10% off add-ons at effectively no extra cost which is not covered under ANA submissions.
    It does vary but based on 10 standard modern coins of a total value less than $5000 then it's $34. 
     
    That is true and shipping rates will increase as parcel weight increases.  500g to USA is £12.50 but 501g - 750g is £14.90 and will go up with each weight bracket.  Over 2kg and it will need to go by Parcel Force which is significantly higher.
    This is where group submission can help reduce tier fees.
     
    Yes, they need to be on their own invoice if it's just the one or all coins in that invoice needs to pay.
     
     
    Yep, prices to vary depending on tiers but on modern coins with a value less and $2000 it's $17.
    NCS will add more cost if required and would be an additional $8 for the invoice + NCS fees.  The data can only be submitted via filling in a PDF but I believe  it is not much different that doing it online.  The final data still has to be printed to be submitted with the coins.  You can also use the PDF method for NGC as well for those who'd rather fill in a PDF.
     
    Yes, there's info there but for those who have asked about direct submission then this thread with some figures will help.  Obviously shipping fees will be dependent on individual submissions but just gives a general idea.
     
    Here's the direct link to the group submission for those who have not seen or read it.
  2. Like
    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in Kangaroo photo thread...   
    BU Roos but unfortunately there are gaps 

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    morezone reacted to realbluegold in Today I received.....   
    Today I received the 4x 1/10 oz gold coins. Nothing impressive, I know but I think that they are cute! Two of them in the original mint packaging.

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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
  7. Like
    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
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    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


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    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


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    morezone got a reaction from ChrisSIlver in Bottle Cap Shaped Coin   
    As title really.  We've had egg shaped coins, spherical coins, cylindrical coins & pyramid shaped coins just to name a few.
    Coming sometime this year will be a bottle cap shaped coin.
    Link to company producing it.  They've been involved with a few licensed themed coins in the past.

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    morezone got a reaction from ChrisSIlver in Bottle Cap Shaped Coin   
    As title really.  We've had egg shaped coins, spherical coins, cylindrical coins & pyramid shaped coins just to name a few.
    Coming sometime this year will be a bottle cap shaped coin.
    Link to company producing it.  They've been involved with a few licensed themed coins in the past.

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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    The return shipment is marked as "returned goods".  The value is at $10.  Technically you should be charged VAT on the services you paid for but since they just mark as $10 it just goes through customs without issue.  There is no insurance for international packages so the $34 isn't too far off.  If you had huge slabs in there they'd charge more due to the extra weight.
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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
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    morezone reacted to metallica73 in BNT - Do not use - Bunch of cowboys - Please read   
    Well would you believe what arrived out of the blue by special delivery this morning from BNT? Over 2 months after ordering and long after I had given up on getting this
    Paying via 5 monthly installments of £106 as per original plan. In excellent condition, so no sloppy seconds either...

     
     
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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
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    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
  18. Like
    morezone got a reaction from arcglide in How much does it cost to self submit to NGC?   
    I have been asked a few times as to how much it cost me to to have my coins graded by NGC without going through a group submission so I thought I’d run the numbers for anyone interested.  It should also help you compare against PCGS if you are using them at the moment.

    Sending a small amount of coins yourself will cost more due to the higher postage costs to and from the USA and worked on a per unit basis.  However, this can then be offset against the cost of sending the coins to and from the group submitter.  Special Delivery is a minimum of £6.45 each way.

    My last submission was 10 coins so I’ll worth with those numbers for now.  But…..10 is not an ideal number of coins as it doesn’t make full use of the postage bands.

    To send 10 coins it cost £12.50 by Royal Mail.  My parcel was 330g or so but this price is the same upto 500g.  Per unit cost is £1.25 but if you had say, 15 coins in there then it would only be 84p per coin.

    For simplicity we’ll use a single tier for these 10 coins.  10 coins at the modern tier is $17 each but going through a group submission there will be a 10% discount doe to the membership level.  I’ll talk about membership at the end.  Each tier and add-on combination requires an separate invoice which is $8.  So far it costs $178 for 10 coins on the modern tier without anything any add-ons.

    Returning 10 coins is approx. $34.  However it is also the same cost to return 15 coins so the return cost can be reduced from $3.40 per coin for 10 to $2.27 per coin for 15.  The price will change as the value of the submission increases beyond value breaks as well as coin breaks so it’s a matter of running numbers if you want to maximise cost effectiveness.

    $178 to grade 10 coins and $34 to return the coins giving a US$ total of $212.  Using 1.3 as the exchange rate we get £163.  If you’re not using a foreign currency fee free card you will need to add on around 3%.  I’ll use 5% for simplicity so adding on 5% now gives a total of £171.23.

    Adding on the original postage cost of £12.50 gives a full grading cost of £183.73 which is £18.38 per coin.

    These numbers are as for coins submitted on the same tier and invoice.  If you wanted to have special labels on 2 of the coins then it will be an additional $8 for a new invoice for just those 2 coins.  Special labels will then have an additional cost of $4.50 per coin.  It should be $5 but I’ll explain that with membership.  These 2 coins will now cost $4.50 (label) and $4 (1/2 of invoice) more.  If you want special labels for add-ons such as double thick holder/scratch resistant holder the fees can add up unless there are enough coins to dilute the $8 invoice fee.  Same goes if you have coins which are going onto a separate invoice because it falls into a different tier.  The other 8 coins is now $8/8 rather than $8/10 so the unit cost for those have shifted up a little.  This is where group can have considerable savings since the invoice fee will be split between many more coins. My latest submission had a single coins going into a different tier.  That cost me an additional $8 just for that coin.
    I think that’s covered most of the fees and in conclusion it should cost you ~£18 if you submitted 10 coins on the modern tier on the same invoice without add-ons.

    Next is membership which is compulsory if you submit directly and there are several options and is valid for a year.

    Associate: $39 to join and gives you 10% off add-ons so special labels cost $4.50 instead of $5.  I do not believe is a level worth considering.

    Premium: $149 to join and again gives you 10% off add-ons.  This also gives you $150 back in credit which means as long as you grade more than 9 ($150/$17) coins then the membership is effectively free.  This is my recommendation.

    Platinum: $299 to join and gives back $150 credit so the membership is effectively $149.  Again you get 10% off add-ons but this level also gives you 10% off grading at both NGC and NCS.  Based on $17 grading fee you would need to submit 89 coins to break even.  It is less if you also submit to NCS and also higher value tiers as well.  Unless you’re submitting a lot of coins this level is not worth considering.  But if you do exceed this threshold you will save ~£1.30 per coin

    ANA:  As a member of the American Numismatic Association you can also submit to NGC.  ANA costs $28 but unless you’re already a member this route is not worth considering.

    Postage to both the USA and back is at your own risk.  I do not believe any courier will insure precious metals without some special agreement.  If you are worried about this you could directly submit to NGC in Germany.  There is also the PCGS route with direct submission in France and also at some of the UK coin shows.  It does eliminate postage risks but does add on travel costs and also VAT on grading.

    Although it costs me slightly more to grade myself than going through a group submission I do it so that I do not need to rely on anyone and also have a paper trail for the coins.  Counterfeiting has always been an issue with raw coins and there is also a small amount of counterfeit slabbed coins.  With grading growing rapidly in China we will most likely see more counterfeit slabs over time.  By having the paper work for my coins it will hopefully add some reassurance when I come to sell in the future.  I will have the original submissions forms from NGC, screen shots of the grading from NGC as well as the final invoice from NGC.  The invoice numbers and line details will match the cert number on the slab so if anyone every queries the authenticity, hopefully this will ease their mind.

    Hopefully I’ve covered everything or at least the important bits.
     
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    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


  20. Like
    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


  21. Like
    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


  22. Like
    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


  23. Like
    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


  24. Like
    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.
     


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    morezone got a reaction from Jester in Today I received.....   
    Back from grading from NGC and 70s across the board.
    2002 Jubilee £25 and 1/4 Platinum Koala were just loose coins in caps so thought I'd might as well neaten them up.  I hadn't noticed the Eagle privy on the Koala until I saw the label.  The £25 is same the same spec as a sovereign.
    2000 Isle Man and Gibraltar coins were bough close to spot and are 1/5 oz each.  Not really my cup of tea but it was something different and a good size and price.  Minted by The Royal Mint and came boxed with COA but took up a lot of room.
    2010 Piedfort Maples came boxed and again too up quite a bit of space.  The gold is the main coin but thought I might as well get the silver done as well and keep them as a pair.
    2017 Chinese Rooster Medal.  Came boxed etc and is a keeper so thought I'd slab it to make for better viewing.
    2017 Rwanda Rooster.  Only 100 minted so might as well.  If it had been normal high volume minted bullion I wouldn't have bothered.  Well happy to get a 70 with this one with it being such an expensive coin in the first place.
    2016 & 2017 1/4 Korean Tigers.  Boxed with COA etc and are keepers so slabbed to reduce space and make for easier viewing and storage.