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  1. Mrs ST likes perry and I probably prefer it to apple cider - I guess the sulfur is from the sterilisation? The apple crop at a relatives looks to be good this year so cider will be in the autumn. I am about to put on a 'Woodforde's Nog' and being here in the North East you have to keep the 'Geordie Bitter' flowing! The 'Ruby Ale' is nearly gone but I will definitely be making that again.
  2. My reason for crossing the Napoleonic coin from PCGS to NGC is that all my other Napoleonic coins are NGC and I would like the set to match - although it does consist of the range of NGC holders that have been used over the years and so far I have resisted putting them all in the same type of NGC holder When I sell them it will probably be through Heritage and if I can complete the typeset to the level I would like Heritage/NGC may re-holder the whole lot with a collection label (lottery win coupled with wishful thinking!). If it doesn't grade the same or higher it will stay in the PCGS slab. The main issue is that there are so few graded examples for some denominations that you need a mix of PCGS/NGC and submitted raw coins to complete the set.
  3. Always makes the coins look good! Some of these are very rare so the actual grades do not really matter much - just protecting the coin and making them official, I think the Ceylon mule coin (proof obverse and ordinary circulation strike on the reverse) is a completely new discovery as there were no proofs recorded for that date. Even some of the sixpences NGC have never seen so it will be interesting to see how they cope although one of the more common sixpences was previously slabbed by NGC as MS64 so any bets on it coming back the same
  4. Personally I prefer the NGC slabs and for most of the areas I collect this seems to also be the preferred TPG. There are some exceptions however, for example Canada, Australia, top Dutch coins, and specimen/pattern coins PCGS seems to be much more popular but in general for world coins it seems to be NGC. I think the key issue here is that there are so few world coins actually graded and trying to put a matched set together will mean buying what is available and crossing to NGC or PCGS as appropriate and also having lots of raw coins graded. As slabbed coins are now much more common outside the US a couple of European auction houses now tend to slab everything as PCGS and one auction house as NGC so given the limited supply collectors will often end up with a mix of slabs and each individual will then have to decide whether they want their coins all in the same format! The same could be said for the classic top British coins (e.g. typically gold and crowns and extremely expensive) which have traditionally been PCGS and if I were a US dealer buying the 'group buy' proof set at the September DNW auction I would be sending this to PCGS and not NGC, I would probably favour PCGS for sovereigns as well although this seems to be changing and will make no difference at all for the more common dates and that the Bentley Collection was slabbed by NGC. It would be great if they would also recognise coins from other named collections and not just those where the whole collections has been slabbed en mass - this is essential for provenance and claiming a slabbed coin is from '??? collection' and which was probably bought raw will require all the original receipts and NGC submission details - NGC could give themselves a massive advantage in the world coin market by doing this and immortalising it on the slab label. My main pet hate with NGC is they do not seem to recognise varieties very well at all which is amazing given that finding minor varieties of US coinage seems to be the holy grail for collectors. PCGS are much much better at this for world coins (LCGS is by far the best for British coins but as the main market is the US a coin in a NGC/PCGS slab is so much easier to sell for a good price even with Numistacker's video on the UK grading service). I expect this is because NGC use Krause as the main reference book whereas PCGS also use the specialist books - this is probably why NGC call things 'piefort' and not 'piedfort' as this is the term used in Krause! (probably a typo in the original edition long ago and it has just stuck) I am not bothered by the 'fancy labels' as I tend to collect older stuff although they are very popular for modern issues and do seem to make a difference both in terms of collectability and prices.
  5. I've got the sixpence so that's a start😄
  6. As a fan of Property Partner the current offerings are the sort of thing I am looking for and I will be diverting the coin/grading fees money to these for the next few months. The 5% offer for 2 years certainly helps with the 2% fee! The 5% offer this time last year has just been paid which was a nice surprise as I had forgotten about it. I am just trying to guess how much over subscribed they are going to be as you only got about 25% on the last one. Although my investment is way below what would be a typical BTL deposit it is creeping up all the time and every little helps😄
  7. As I tend to go for the older stuff I looked at the prices for their 'old coins' £1279 for a 1/3guniea which is usually about £250 absolute tops in that condition! I am obviously in the wrong job, but I would happily sell them my higher grade examples for half their selling price
  8. Great coin, can I ask where from? I have always looked at slabbed versions of these as 'bullion' was often low grade and not worth the extra premium.
  9. Apparently coin collecting has become popular and the Royal Mint need to access the numismatic sector of the market so have bought a stake in Sovereign Rarities. http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-4647352/Royal-Mint-buys-stake-Sovereign-Rarities-Limited.html https://www.sovr.co.uk/ If I could get the premium they charge for my coins I would be retired by now
  10. Krause is fine for most things, the specialist book is 'Monnaies Francaises 1789-2015' by Victor Gadoury - the source of the G, Gad. etc reference numbers on auction listings. There are others that deal with patterns, odd strikes etc
  11. I agree with buy the coin and not the slab, I have quite a few sixpences at MS64 and they do vary somewhat, some graded at MS63 are much better in my opinion and I certainly wouldn't pay the premium on some of the MS65/66's I have seen. In my experience the TPGs also seem to be alot more forgiving on old gold coins relative to silver. I have one that used to be in a NGC slab at MS64 and it will be going as a raw coin with the next lot of Numistacker's grading - bets on what it comes back as???😄
  12. In terms of sixpences PCGS seem to group at 65/66 or even higher for the top coins whereas NGC seem to group at 63/64/65 and only occasionally higher. Although they do seem to cross over each way OK. It may be that PCGS seem to have been doing top British coins for longer and therefore got the top examples before NGC!
  13. I will be sending one PCGS and one LCGS this time - thanks Numi!
  14. As you say the official opening was only yesterday so I expect things will settle down over time. It does seem to be safety deposit boxes first but then that is the thing the region is missing!
  15. Well I have now visited. Unless you know it is there you would never have any idea - this is a good thing. It is the basement of a shared office block with no mention on the list of companies on the board inside the building which only covers the floors 1-4, some office suites in the building are empty. There was however a flyer on the security guards desk who I had to ask how to get there. Multiple doors with intercoms, like HGM, but they seem much much more robust, like a bank vault, and the place seems to be very well built. Safety deposit boxes vary from 2"x5"x24" (boxAA) at £150 per year upto 33"x16"x24" (boxI) at £3285 per year. Insurance is £4 per £1000 per year. Staff appeared very professional. I saw 3 staff and I was the only 'customer'. I didn't get to see the safety deposit boxes on this occasion. Now for the bullion side - this was where the staff were a little uncertain and several people had to try and answer my queries. The bullion side is gold only, no silver, platinum, palladium etc. There is no bullion kept on site and it is all ordered when requested. They didn't seem to recognise the names of the common bullion coins other than maybe sovereigns. They couldn't give me values for the premiums as that would be dependent on how much you ordered and didn't seem to have a fixed scale. On further discussion a handful of sovereigns they thought would probably be about 5.5% over spot but didn't seem very sure without actually placing an order. In terms of selling to them, again this is gold only and they will send everything away for testing even for things like sovereigns and the price will be determined at the time of them receiving the test results back which could be several days, price appears to be about 4% below spot at best (this is also subject to the quantity) but again it seems they would need to actually process an order to find out. So potentially useful for a safety deposit box, particularly as there is nothing else here in the North which is great, although I think I will carry on picking up sovereigns from the Newcastle Jewellery Company