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  1. 40 points
    mr-dead

    Gold sold - my lessons learned

    So now I have sold my entire gold stack I thought I would post some of my lessons learned for anyone that may be interested. Total amount of gold sold - just under 55oz A total mishmash of coins, bars, bullion and semi numi stuff. My lessons learned 1) Fractionals at 1/4oz or under are defo easier to sell than larger items. Older Pandas were the most popular followed by the lunar series and retain the greatest premium. 2) Bars do not sell as well as coins (no problem at the dealer but you will get a lower payment compared to selling privately) 3) It takes a lot of time and hassle to piece out your stack if you want to maximise profit, the more diverse the stack the longer it will take. 4) Having physical gold makes it harder to react to spot price, when you decide to sell you will be praying spot price doesnt take a big hit on the way to the dealer. 5) Atkinsons pricing is based on either an AM or PM price fix (I got todays 3 PM price fix at just over £1000oz) 6) Make sure you keep a good spreadsheet of your stack - makes life a lot easier at selling time. 7) I know this is "thesilverforum" but I am so glad I put my money in to gold over silver. I cant imagine how long it would have taken to sell the equivalent value in silver compared to my gold stack as it would have had to be private sales to make up for any VAT and increased premiums on silver coins/bars. My stacking strategy moving forward: I plan to continue buying gold on the next dip but my approach will change significantly. 1) I will split funds between a physical stack and a bullionvault account 2) Physical stack will consist of 100% sovereigns, used as a long term retirement investment. 3) I will not stray into the semi numi coins for simplicity and easier selling when the time comes. 4) Bullionvault account will be used for real time buying/selling in relation to spot price movements and will also enable me to play the GSR ratio when possible. Summary. It was a very strange feeling walking into atkinsons this morning with a box holding a few years of hard work and dedication. The big plus side is that gold stacking has enabled me to save far more money than I ever would have managed if I was just banking fiat. I will get a real sense of satisfaction when I settle my mortgage 11 years early saving a lot on interest payments and ensuring a safe and secure future for my family. OTHERS OPINIONS MAY VARY
  2. 38 points
    mr-dead

    Today I Received

    A bit of gold porn, the bars are starting to arrive (from Canada). Due to shipping insurance limits they ship each bar individually and 2 packages at a time. I have another 2 bars due for delivery tomorrow then another 4 bars to come soon. Would be cool if I end up with 9 different mints Also got a peli case so when all the bars arrive I can pop out the foam squares to fit the bars correctly.
  3. 37 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    O, and someone delivered a few young heads Have an afternoon of sorting them now!
  4. 35 points
    Coins confirmed as real:) they did not use an XRF, but have highly accurate scales - they were happy to buy them outright or loan on them there and then so that's good enough for me. We have debated selling two and keeping two, but have decided that they are really nice condition and will be good to keep as coins for a rainy day fund so going to keep them all. finding 4 sovereigns on ST Georges day of all days just seems like it was meant to be. Thanks for the advice everyone, kept me sane whilst waiting!
  5. 33 points
    mr-dead

    Today I Received

    Was like Christmas day today when the postman arrived with 3 X special delivery parcels 2017 Piedfort sov + full, half & quarter
  6. 31 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    35 Edward sovs to get the run started, this part will be easy. 95% of coins are in extremely good grade which makes things a lot easier also!
  7. 31 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    Couple of sovs
  8. 30 points
    Numistacker

    Today I Received

    I am thrilled with the Sovereign that arrived today. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk *Removed Tapatalk's double post within a post.
  9. 30 points
    Danny-boy

    My Stacker Story.......

    Hi All, Not sure how interesting this will be, but I thought I'd share the story of my stacking journey over the last 6 years or so. It all started 6 years ago, as I mentioned. I can't remember how it started, but I can only assume it was a bored eBay search that drew me to my first 1oz coin. I believe it was an older maple. At this point, I'd probably be best to describe myself a little. I'm impulsive, easily bored, change my mind often and am a born "collector". That'll become clear though as I continue.... The first maple lit a fire, heavy, shiny and substantial to hold, proper treasure. If memory serves, in a short time I had about 30 different year and privy maples in my collection. Now I'm not sure what happened next, but I sold them all to fund another "master plan", not metals related. As soon as they were sold, I missed them so collection number 2 began. Collection number 2 was all about world crowns from different countries. I had about 40 which was a really nice collection in an album. Then I stumbled across a 5 reichsmark from the Germany Nazi era on eBay. I bought it, and fell in love. So on with those. I collected an ADAM set (all dates, all mints). This was a great achievement and I was so chuffed. Then I chanced on a cheap (cheap then, not now) 1oz Britannia. It arrived and I was smitten with the design. I'm sure you can guess what's coming next.... I got an offer I couldn't refuse on the crowns & reichsmark collection. So I sold them all, with the intention of getting a date run of Britannias together. This is my only "stacking regret" - ever since the day I sold them, I missed the reichsmark collection. Still do now, but that's a story for another day. As an aside, it was around this time that a few of us UK stackers chatting on an Australian forum managed to talk ChrisSilver into starting this forum, and we all put a lot of work into making it the fantastic place it is today, thanks Chris. The date run of britannias started when silver was at around £23 (distant memory I know). Got a date run together but with duplicates, so I went for two runs but ended up with three. This is where the proper collecting started, buying lots of 1oz coins. 50oz became 100, 100 became 200, eventually 200 became 450oz. This was mostly comprised of date runs, 1/2, 1 & 2oz lunars, run of kooks & koalas, proofs, high reliefs etc. A really good collectors hoard. Below is a photo of the stack at around 350oz, I didn't take any more after that before I started selling. My long term target was 520oz of silver to enable me to sell 1oz a week for the first 10 years of retirement. At this point storage was becoming a big issue. I'm lucky enough to have a friend in the jewellery trade with a big safe, in which he allowed me to keep my entire stack. His business was expanding though, as was the physical size of my stack, but his safe remained the same size. I could tell things were tight, but he assured me it was not a problem. I had often thought about gold, and had owned very little during my stacking journey, but never did anything about it. That is, until I bought my first sovereign. Although a tad disappointing when I received it, being used to 1oz silver coins, it was exciting to hold something so small that was worth (at the time) around £200. My silver stack £/oz had always annoyed me, hovering around the £25 mark, so I decided to sell some premium silver to fund the purchase of more sovereigns. To cut a long story short, and 8 months later, I had sold my entire silver stack and ended up with 55 sovereigns. No more storage issues as my entire stack now fitted inside a smartie tube, and would be easily sold on through the likes of HGM, Atkinsons, eBay or the forum. I was very careful with my gold purchases, and had a £779/oz average. Spot has dropped recently, but still a very respectable average in my opinion. Below is a picture at 48 sovereigns, I didn't take another picture before I started selling. But, true to form, my mind changed. I missed the exposure to silver, which in my opinion has more scope for a meteoric rise than gold. So I decided to sell some sovereigns and get back some silver, although keeping a very close eye on my silver £/oz, a very close eye indeed. I didn't want to fall into the "collector" trap again, and I also didn't want to have the pain of selling a large amount of individual ounces in the future to get out of the game. So this took me to larger coins. Generally lower £/oz and easier to liquidate a kilo coin than 32 single ounces. Less profit to be had, granted, but the eye on the average would sort that. I was very strict in my purchasing, and I have now arrived at 520oz (my original target) of silver for an average of £11.75/oz. Thankfully it didn't take the sale of all my sovereigns to get there, and I ended up with 25 of them also (£763/oz average). I'll post a pic up of my silver stack next week when the last few kilo's and 10oz coins arrive from STG. So 450oz of semi-numi silver eventually turned into 520oz of bullion, and 25 sovereigns. And at very respectable cost averages I think. The silver stack is now wholly comprised of kilo coins and 10oz coins (all Perth Mint), and fill a shoe box slightly larger than a monster box. Much less intrusive in my friends safe, which I'm very pleased about. This has been by far my most favourite hobby, and a fantastic method of saving money into a tangible asset, which I hope will assist me in my retirement. I'm only in my late 30's, so retirement is a while away yet, but I like pre-planning. Increasing my pension contribution % every year should also help, and I have been doing that for some time now. I'm not quite sure where I'll go with my stacking journey now, don't really want more silver (that's getting sealed in a box and left for a long time now) so I may possibly increase the gold stack, or take a little stacking holiday, but I'm sure it will come to me in a dream sometime soon. I don't know why I felt compelled to write my story, but I hope it is interesting to some and maybe it will provide comfort to others that feel they wish to change direction with their stack - it is possible, and I have done it many times!!!! Thanks for reading, if you managed to make it this far.
  10. 29 points
    sovereignsteve

    Today I Received

    Well yesterday............the postie paid me a visit. a proof 2005 and some bullion. a 1884 shield half sovereign. was surprised I didn't have one already. A lovely 1818 crown in EF condition. obverse maybe shows some signs of a little past cleaning, but hey don't send it for grading
  11. 29 points
    mr-dead

    Today I Received

    The big one arrived today Shrink wrapped with cert, shiny fresh bar too made 31/8/17 Feels unbelievably heavy for its size.
  12. 29 points
    Numistacker

    Today I Received

    I to say a big thank you too@pampfan and to@sovereignsteve for facilitating the local posting. My first Pamp bar and I love [emoji173]️ it thanks so much.
  13. 28 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    Shields! Not sure what is going on with the lighting (phone camera pic) but none of them are black like the edges ones look 😂 Yet to sort through but they are all very nice, a few cleaned but that's it. 35 more to come tomorrow!
  14. 28 points
    mr-dead

    Today I Received

    Another Johnson Matthey + Umicore Brasil bar arrived. Think thats me officially done with stacking now
  15. 28 points
    Lindeman

    Today I Received

    Picked up a couple of IOM 1 ounce Nobles - 2016 gold and the platinum from 1987 (middle of the Noble platinum run which went from 1983-1989, 3000 mintage for 1987). Have to say - the gold noble has instantly become one of my favourites ! Took further advantage of the long drop in platinum $ price in early October (to lowest in 6 months) to pick up another ounce, this one a Canadian 2016 maple, and for metal diversity I got my first palladium coin - also a 1 ounce Canadian maple, from 2005. Interesting to see that the palladium is quite a big bigger (less density than platinum). Also from Scottsdale - a 5oz chunky silver bar, and then the pretty awesome Chad King Tut 5 ounce Egyptian Relic Series with its chiselled look antique finish. From MCM when they got them back in stock - a few slabbed PF70 silver moon festival medals, which I was initially immune to ...but now appreciate more for the sheer detail packed into the 1 ounce. Two Asahi 10 oz silver bars - nice to see how they kept some elements of the Johnson Mathey design, but added some new design features. Core stack. Finally - a batch of QB Lion gold quarter ounces (still picking them up ...as I reckon they still hold a lot of collector potential). I am going to look closely under a loupe to see if any deserve grading. Need to lay off the PMs for a few days😉..but especially enjoyed the dip in platinum, while adding to the collection and the stack.
  16. 27 points
    GoldBenj

    Today I made.....

    After the popularity of the "Today I bought.." and "Today I received" Threads I thought perhaps people could upload pictures of things they have made/poured/cast. I thought I'd kick it off with this 9ct Gold bangle I made today...
  17. 27 points
    Agpanda

    New webpage about Pandas

    Hi all, I have made a webpage about silver pandas Take a look and if you find something wrong, just let me know www.agpanda.com This is ment to be a little help for those thinkin about collecting pandas.
  18. 27 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    So they arrived, 1989 Quintuple BU, and 1837-1897 3oz gold medal. The medal is now the best coin in my whole collection without any doubts, no proofs or rare dates compare to this, pictures or words cannot describe how this coin feels in hand! The relief on the old head side is just ridiculous. I think i may have to make a video showing the "turn" on this coin The 1989 Quintuple is in near-perfect condition, small blemish on rim of reverse is the only flaw i can see so very very happy with it!
  19. 27 points
    augur

    Today I Received

    Quincentennial and Bicentennial Quintuple Sovereigns
  20. 27 points
    sovereignsteve

    Today I Received

    I decided to go for it. The elusive (and expensive) S1 1oz Proof Mouse
  21. 27 points
    Hi I just completed the Lunar S1 proof set this week here is a couple of photos along with the Bu set I completed 2 years ago. Proofs are on the left Bu's on the right.I hope you like them as they are very difficult to get a good photo.
  22. 26 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    30 more 1840s shields, 100 unsorted Sorry if it's getting boring posting the same pictures up, I need to find time to sort through them all and find some nice ones to photograph
  23. 26 points
    BackyardBullion

    Today I Received

    Looking good!
  24. 26 points
    PureGold

    Today I Received

    Just received my 1 oz Gold Queen's Beast Griffin😋 Just waiting for the 2 oz Silver Griffin now
  25. 26 points
    Offer of help If anyone out there is not to savvy with excel for a spreadsheets of their stack i would like to extend help. if all your stack is in a little black book and you want to come into the modern age, i can help you Although i am not at software engineer standard at MS excel i have managed to cobble together a half decent spreadsheet to track your stack. Over the past few years, it has certainly took me a few hours to perfect it, as i have added various bells and totally unnecessary whistles like colour co-ordination Features: Total invested Current stack value Current profit/loss in stack GSR breakdown % breakdown of stack allocation Price per (g) per item Price per (oz) Mean average costs of stack (DCA) Mean price (g) Mean price per (oz) Dates of purchase Item description Basically everything at a glance where your stack is, nice to experiment if gold/silver goes to the moon what your stack will be worth in fiat £'s If anybody wants it i am happy to email it through to you for the princely sum of £FREE, gratis, zero, nothing, ziltch, nadda All i ask for is a 'like' and a 'small thanks or comment' follow up post in this thread Just drop me a private message (PM) with your email address and i will send it through to you
  26. 25 points
    Olliecobs

    Today I Received

    Received this big boy today. Managed to grab it during the little dip in price a few days ago! Loving the weight.
  27. 25 points
    gavstick

    Smoking or Sovereigns

    As a long time smoker I decided to stop. I put the £7 cigarette money I would have spent each day into a jar. At the end of the month I would have around £200 in cash. Adding a little to this I would buy a sovereign each month. I now have a small collection of 16 sovereigns and it seems like I have just changed addictions.
  28. 25 points
    mongo28

    Today I Received

    2017 Gold Proof Libertad's arrived... Off to NGC next week... (1/10, 1/4, & 1/2oz)
  29. 25 points
    PureGold

    Today I Received

    1/4 oz Gold - Red Dragon - Queen's Beast
  30. 25 points
    mondy41

    Today I Received

    Order from Goldsilver.be 5 x 1/10 Efelants 1 x 1/4 Queens Beast 1 x 1/4 2013 Panda in OMP
  31. 24 points
    MrGeorge

    Today I Received

    Griffin arrived today. All upto date with the queens beasts now and hit my first milestone of 10oz of gold. So very happy, on to the next milestone.
  32. 24 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    Purchased this a few days back for the Proof Quintuple, I'm collecting the changing Quintuple dates. Wonderful coins!
  33. 24 points
    morezone

    Today I Received

    Now that I've got a few mins. Yesterday's slabs. 2017 Pristrucci 3 coin set, Strike on the Day and BU 5 Sov all came back 70. 2005 Australian Sov was originally treated as bullion so 69 or less was expected. The centennial Bi-Met Sov got a low grade due to the milk spotting on the silver. Pleased with the 70 on the £1 and the £2 was as expected. The coins from that set were not mint. All the 1/10 China Lunars came back 70 so happy with those.
  34. 24 points
    mr-dead

    Today I Received

    2 x umicore delivered today. Last 2 bars due to be delivered tomorrow.
  35. 24 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    Five (Quintuple) Sovereigns, 1902 + 1887 ! excuse the pictures, handheld macro and bit blurry
  36. 24 points
    Sovereign

    Today I Received

    It's here! What a coin 1911 Proof Full Sov , NGC PF65 Cameo will do a youtube video soon ,,
  37. 24 points
    sg86

    Today I Received

    Yes yes more shields , 8 to be exact, and 2 young head st.georges The lustre on 3 of them is incredible, hard to capture in a photograph so i tried with fingers as you can see reflection :D. I've never graded a single coin but this may be worth it. Also a 1891 Sydney half sov photo at the end, little worn but only 154,000 were minted 130 years ago and the first branch mint half sov i have i think
  38. 24 points
    morezone

    Today I Received

    I've been wanting the 2017 for a while because of the new design. Luckily I never did buy it and the limited 30th Anniversary Privy was recently released so it made much more sense to get this one instead for the extra few £. Decided to buy from RMB as it was only £4 more expensive than elsewhere and for that extra I would get a capsule and be entered into the prize draw. Unlike the Queen's Beasts, the capsule is not the screw type and is just a push fit with a little moon cutout for opening. Shipped yesterday with a scheduled delivery for Tuesday due to the Bank Holiday. Delivered today, a Saturday by DHL. The field design is much better than the dimply effect of the previous couple years.
  39. 24 points
    pho

    Today I Received

    some investment pieces 30g 2017 Panda 1oz 2016 American Gold Eagle 1oz 2017 American Buffalo 1oz 2017 Krugerrand 50th anniversary privy Gold goals for 2017: achieved
  40. 24 points
    StackerMike

    Today I Received

    1987 3 Coin set Gold panda Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  41. 24 points
    K_theepan

    Today I Received

    Another set to my collection
  42. 24 points
    Hey I didn't know where the best place to post this, but I wanted to say thanks to all the people who have given me advice since joining the forum. As all noobs do I've asked some stupid questions (and I'm sure I'll ask more), but everyone has been very patient and informative and now I have a nice solid start to my collection. I will be looking to collect for years to come...just don't tell my wife!! Also I have to throw a mention to @Numistacker and @morezone as I happened to stumble on their videos while researching stuff for my channel and introduced me to this forum. Ive attached my collection so far, not the biggest but it's a start! Thanks!
  43. 23 points
    Day 1 - save 1p Day 2 - save 2p Day 3 save 3p Day 100 save £1.00 Day 365 save £3.65 Print the above picture off and mark each day off as you drop your cash in You'll have £667.95 after a year, enough for a few sovereigns, a half oz of gold and a few 1/10s. Get it without really trying, the cheapest will be the first week £0.28 the dearest week, this last week will cost you £25.34. It wont cost you more than a Starbucks coffee a day Each day when you get up, when you make your breakfast or are about to leave the house put the amount into a jar and watch your money increase daily. Because its loose change you won't really miss it and it will soon become a habit. Think of it as you are paying yourself if you like. You could even transfer it from your bank account daily to a savings account if you don't tend to have loose change on you or start by using a jar of loose change that you already have to keep you going for a couple of weeks or months. I'll be using a money tin which you need to open with a tin opener which will stop me from dipping into it. You can find these in most 99p shops and then you have a penny for the first day to get you started. The above is at the bear minimum, everyone sticks to this who wishes to participate. But feel free & POST any FREE unexpected money that comes your way over the year, to it over the year to keep the thread alive. Your odd coppers in your jeans after a night out at the end of the working day, it goes in your gold pot You get a £2 coin in your change at the supermarket, it goes in your gold pot Your Lucky 15 bet comes in and nets you £20, it goes in the pot. You find a £1 on the way to work, it goes in your gold pot You get a x3 numbers on the Lottery it goes in your gold pot You win a domino card at the local darts/pool league game, it goes in your gold pot You are gifted a tenner in a birthday card, it goes in your gold pot Who fancy's joining the challenge ?? This day next year we share our gold pot totals here, and share our pics of our gold purchases this time next year from our daily savings ? As chancellor Mr George Osbourne said, "We are all in this together " Fancy joining the challenge ?
  44. 23 points
    Numistacker

    Today I Received

    Bought a 1/4oz gold Kruger from HGM earlier in the week.. I was not expecting something so beautiful to show up. 2017 anniversary proof! Yay [emoji4] Bought a 1/4oz gold Kruger from HGM earlier in the week.. I was not expecting something so beautiful to show up. 2017 anniversary proof! Yay [emoji4]
  45. 23 points
    Silvergun

    Today I Received

    Pleased with my choice of buying from the mint.
  46. 23 points
    Pampfan

    Today I Received

    After weeks of cleaning up the stack - I present the 5oz PAMP bar. Goal for 2017 Completed!
  47. 23 points
    Numistacker

    Today I Received

    Some recent arrivals 2017 3 coin premium sovereign set 2014 half sovereign India Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  48. 23 points
    Quicksilver

    Today I Received

    My first panda a 1oz gold 2011, very pleased wit it to.
  49. 23 points
    Numistacker

    Today I Received

    Just got the grading back from the current NGC batch and I wanted to share some things with you guys... Lets start with Centennial Gold - I sent in 4 pieces - 3 dimes and one Standing Liberty Quarter as an Early Release As you can see ALL yes ALL got SP70! Next invoice in the modern tier was a couple of pandas, a couple of gold beasts and some moon pandas... As you can see - The 2 Beasts (one mine and one for Oldun) scored... drum roll... encore drum roll... MS70!! The 1983 Panda looked great to me when I bought it and to get a 69 on such an early Panda was great. Lets turn to the Moon Pandas... I dont think anyone has graded any yet independently ... got 69 and a 70 which was not bad. the MCM 70's have sold out as a dealer in China bought about 150,000$ worth of them! Lastly I did a favour for Junior member @Brycekanowski aged 11 who wanted to grade his prized 2005 Proof Silver Eagle. What was really cool was it got its own special 30th Anniversary label free of charge by NGC which I was not expecting and it scored a perfect PF70 too.
  50. 23 points
    oliversw5

    Today I Received

    The Panda's have arrived, 4.5kg of Panda goodness , a cracked case or 2 but genuinely pleased with the order